my friend and i last night had a discussion. he thought that even though you are saved and if you dont ask for forgiveness of your sins after you're saved, you'll go to hell. i was explaining to him that once we are saved, we are all saved. I mean the key word is 'saved'. saved from the wages of sin, because Jesus paid it for us. I showed him the verse John 10:29 in which Jesus is saying God the Father gave him his sheep and they'll never be snatched out of his hand. I think that verse supports the facts that once saved always saves. We can't lose our salvation. Even after i showed him that verse, for a minute he still didn't believe it. and then he said later that he believed it.i learned a few things forom last night. 1. it's a lot harder to prove a concept to someone without physical evidence. 2. one's arrogance can prevent him or her from accepting the truth. 3. when discussing something, you must define all of your terms and elaborate on things logically and clearly and gently